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Post by Simone on Jan 22, 2019 13:27:37 GMT -8
I have been watching the Oscars regularly since the early 90s, and I can honestly say that I have never been so shocked and surprised by the omission of a performance in the acting categories as I have today when Timothée Chalamet was not nominated. Timothée was poised to win his second Oscar nomination in a row for his supporting performance in Beautiful Boy. A film that he seemed destined to play, and a role he not only thoroughly researched, but lost 18 lbs. on an already thin frame to convincingly portray a young man spiraling out of control due to his addiction to methamphetamine and other drugs and alcohol. When the Best Supporting Actor category nominees were announced, in alphabetical order, and when a C-lettered surname was not listed, my heart sank into my stomach. After all nominees were listed, I felt the blood drain from my face. I was gutted. I was sad, angry, and in shock. If I as a fan feel this way, one can only imagine how Timothée himself feels. This sensitive soul must be devastated. Timmy shared in recent interviews that he cried when he realized his screen time on Interstellar was so short. I am quite positive that Timmy shed some tears this morning. And that just hurts me even more because I wanted him to have that deserved Oscar nomination as much as he, Amazon Studios, his manager, UTA, and his family and friends wanted that nomination for him.
Artists like Timothée aspire to have their work recognized by the very organization that doles out the highest honor in his industry. When the four precursors (Golden Globes, Critic’s Choice, SAG, and BAFTA) nominated him for supporting actor, the natural order of things build up the expectation that he would also receive an Oscar nomination. It is a complete travesty that Timmy did not receive an Oscar nomination today. And due to this snub, my theory about how nominations are designed appears to be true.
Timmy was up against performers in films that have been critical successes and box office successes. He was the most vulnerable of being snubbed outside of the merits of him otherwise giving an Oscar nominated worthy performance. It is now so very clear that AMPAS did not like Beautiful Boy, and by that, deliberately, and crudely short changed him in being nominated. Like last year, when Timmy was nominated for Best Actor, although a critical darling in a well-liked film, his youth prevented him from seriously being considered to win the Oscar. The actual winner was a veteran actor, approaching age 60 who steamrolled the season. This year, Beautiful Boy, a fine film, was crippled by unfair mixed reviews. And due to the difficult topic, it was not a box office hot ticket. In fact, it was quite a different film than all those that wound up being nominated.
Oscar season campaigning pretty much begins as early as the fall festivals of Telluride, Venice and Toronto. After the world premiere of Toronto, Timmy has hit the ground running in promoting Beautiful Boy relentlessly and in unique ways unlike any other actor this season. In the end, it seems that publicly, the official reason for the snub can be hung up on claiming that voters didn’t like the film. But, I think it’s more to it than that. Hollywood put some roadblocks up on the Timmy train to have him slow down. They think he’s way too young (they only say this about men), and unfortunately, he’s too good looking for them to take seriously. These are two elements about Timmy that he has no control over, but it’s being held against him.
The Academy voters opted to nominate two recent Oscar winners, one actor in his mid-30s (an ok age zone to be nominated), one cool British guy (gotta have a Brit nominated), and Mr. Cool himself, a first time Oscar nominee at the ancient age of 74, Mr. Sam Elliott. There was no way in hell AMPAS was going to entertain having a Tiger Beat nominee again, back to back, siphoning off votes from Mr. Cool Old Guy from a very, very, VERY popular film. The academy is still managed by old white men, and to them, Timmy is a little boy whilst Mr. Elliott is a peer in more than a dozen ways. They have ties and boots older than Timmy, and they are fatigued by his happy go lucky, high fashion, pretty-boy self. AMPAS desperately wants to give Sam his Oscar (to give SOMEONE for A Star is Born an acting Oscar) and the best person to sacrifice and get out Sam’s way was Lil Timmy Tim. Ali isn’t going to win for Green Book, he just won in 2017. Sam Rockwell ain’t winning, he just won last year. That leaves Adam Driver (his nomination is his prize), and Richard E. Grant who will have to settle for the BAFTA, which favors the British anyway. That leaves Sam Elliott, a real Hollywood man’s man. The Academy couldn’t risk their preferred nominee to lose to a kid, or have votes split to possibly favor Grant. So, they removed Chalamet from the equation completely, and have kicked their legs up on their Hollywood desks smoking a cigar, congratulating themselves in putting Chalamet in his place. Yeah, take that French boy, stay in your lane until you hit 30.
Some people may simply think that Timmy just wasn’t good enough to be nominated. That’s bullshit, he was, the four precursor noms prove it, as well as Timmy being at least nominated in most of the large critic’s group for his work. There is much more to the story behind Chalamet’s snub, and based on my beliefs and theories I just shared, it’s an insult to him as a fine actor to be treated this way. Most people feel that, again, because of Timmy’s age, surely, he’ll have many, many opportunities in the future to be nominated for an Oscar and win it. But like I mentioned earlier this season, if he doesn’t get it this year, he won’t be in contention again for at least 5-6 years, and he’ll still be in his 20s, that’s how young Timmy is to these old bastards! Or they may continue to block him (like they did Leonardo DiCaprio) until he’s well into his 30s, which is over a decade from now.
It is my hopes that the initial shock of being snubbed for the Oscar for a performance that was stronger than his nominated performance last year in Call Me by Your Name, wears off quickly, and Timmy will just focus on The French Dispatch and Dune. I will sacrifice my own Club Chalamet hobby for several months to allow him space so that he can focus on his craft, be happy, and get hired for new roles. The essence of Timmy is too much for many men in Hollywood to deal with right now because he is the antithesis of what they are and cannot be, and he still needs to prove himself and have a few more birthdays before he’s viewed as a MAN, and win the accolades that he deserves.
Much love and peace to Timothée and hopefully this disappointment is put behind him quickly.
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Post by tennismom on Jan 22, 2019 13:47:27 GMT -8
Thank you for the thoughtful post.
I hope TC will go to the Oscars if asked and I myself am going to pull back from the fandom to give him some space to carve out a normal life for himself, family and close friends.
This is not the end of the world! Wishing Timothee the best.
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Post by darkingenue on Jan 22, 2019 14:06:23 GMT -8
If we are all honest, it will be hard to tear ourselves away from the fandom, even for a little bit. That may not ultimately be the problem, but it might help, to some degree. I think the most important thing to remind ourselves is that there is an ageist and aging voting system in Hollywood, and it is not a meritocracy.
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Post by Simone on Jan 22, 2019 14:30:11 GMT -8
Thank you for the thoughtful post. I hope TC will go to the Oscars if asked and I myself am going to pull back from the fandom to give him some space to carve out a normal life for himself, family and close friends. This is not the end of the world! Wishing Timothee the best. Thank you Tennismom. For as many anti-Timmy blockers there are in Hollywood, a LOT of people do love him. He's down for this count, and people realize how bad this snub looks, especially based on my speculations. I'm not pulling back from the fandom, I'm just going to patiently wait for Timmy to take time to go off the grid when he needs to, and I'll still be here, but enjoying the reprieve too. I don't know if he'll go to the Oscars... why would he bother? Nothing from Beautiful Boy has been nominated and AMPAS made it crystal clear they don't respect him enough to even nominate him for a career high performance. Even though I'll be attending the Oscars in a fan capacity, I don't need to see him there among all that fake shit after they snubbed him.
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Post by Simone on Jan 22, 2019 14:31:23 GMT -8
If we are all honest, it will be hard to tear ourselves away from the fandom, even for a little bit. That may not ultimately be the problem, but it might help, to some degree. I think the most important thing to remind ourselves is that there is an ageist and aging voting system in Hollywood, and it is not a meritocracy. Age discrimination is most obvious with young men, and very old women. If Timmy were Tammy, he would have been nominated and most likely won.
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Post by lucy123 on Jan 22, 2019 14:42:20 GMT -8
what they did to Al Pacino and Leonardo ... they did the same thing at Timothee ... very disappointed with AMPAS
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Post by darkingenue on Jan 22, 2019 15:14:09 GMT -8
Age discrimination is most obvious with young men, and very old women. If Timmy were Tammy, he would have been nominated and most likely won. That's why the "process" is so disturbing! It's like they're channeling this idea of an awards-like May-December romance! Far-fetched, perhaps, but think about it.
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Post by Simone on Jan 22, 2019 15:23:04 GMT -8
Age discrimination is most obvious with young men, and very old women. If Timmy were Tammy, he would have been nominated and most likely won. That's why the "process" is so disturbing! It's like they're channeling this idea of an awards-like May-December romance! Far-fetched, perhaps, but think about it. Jennifer Lawrence beat out 80-something year old Emmanuelle Riva for her Oscar (she was a Weinstein girl), and no one bats an eye at that. Jennifer was younger than Timmy is when she won her Oscar. Age discrimination is REAL at the Oscars and it's a prejudice that may never dissipate.
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Post by darkingenue on Jan 22, 2019 15:54:54 GMT -8
Jennifer Lawrence beat out 80-something year old Emmanuelle Riva for her Oscar (she was a Weinstein girl), and no one bats an eye at that. Jennifer was younger than Timmy is when she won her Oscar. Age discrimination is REAL at the Oscars and it's a prejudice that may never dissipate. It's one of many prejudices, for sure. I was just thinking about how Sean Penn - a straight man - won his second Oscar for "Milk", playing a real-life gay activist and politician who was murdered. Are we to assume that when certain people take on "risky" roles, they are meant to be rewarded? And how much are these men willing to risk nominating and awarding those people? What is their definition of "risk" here? (Mind you, this is not to take away from Sean Penn or the movie itself, but it begs the question.)
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Post by cmbynsuperfan on Jan 22, 2019 18:21:46 GMT -8
cmbynsuperfan: Timmy, you are brilliant and so talented and there will be many awards to come. As hard as it may be, try to delay immediate gratification as your time WILL come. And when it does, “World, watch out!!”. You’ve achieved so much in such a short time. Cherish your successes and don’t focus on the losses. In life, there are both. And it’s how you handle it that matters. And Zi know you will handle it well, no matter what the outcome. Sincerely, A loyal fan
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Post by gerardian on Jan 22, 2019 18:41:30 GMT -8
I'm hearing right now that Timothee - between sobs - is comparing himself to that iconic movie farm kid standing on Tatooine staring at a double sunset feeling dazed and confused before he realized his destiny. I can relate to that very much and it sounds like Timothee as we have gotten to know and understand him.
Many thanks are due to Simone our administrator and founder. She is outspoken, a great writer, and a loyal, dedicated fan of all things Chalamet.
Denying Timothee an Oscar nomination for his incredible performance in Beautiful Boy shows just how far out of touch AMPAS is. Aging and ageist indeed. But that doesn't take away from his undeniable star power and brilliant talent, jealousy and politics aside.
He can still come to present an award as a gesture. But I'd rather he disassociate himself from Oscar this year completely though.
I hope that he chooses to do the very prominent UN panel tomorrow. I wonder if they scheduled it this way intentionally so that the narrative changes from him being snubbed to look at him still working to get the message of the movie out? Smart agenting, that. And he can still appear at the Oscars and create a fashion sensation, although as I said, if I were him I'd skip the Oscars altogether and move on to prep for critical upcoming projects such as French Dispatch and DUNE.
In the end Timothee will get through this by choosing great projects with great directors. That's what counts and makes a career, not the fickle moods and dubious personality politics of AMPAS. Let us continue to keep the fandom going here and on social media, with Simone as always fueling the momentum.
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Post by Simone on Jan 22, 2019 21:24:08 GMT -8
Posting this here to share: Current LA Times poll as of 9:50pm PST on Jan 22: Like you gerardian, I don't want Timmy anywhere near the Dolby theater on Feb 24th. They don't deserve him. They had a chance to have him front and center, but as I demonstrated above, they have selected a winner already and want an easy win for SE. I watched the movie Glass tonight, I pre-planned to go to the theater tonight to decompress post-Oscar announcements, whether it was good or bad news, I wanted this distraction. A twist element of the plot, w/o giving out too much of a spoiler, is that a secret cabal was in operation to keep a manufactured balance of what they felt the world should be like. I immediately thought of TPTB behind the Oscar nomination process, and how I believe they shifted things behind closed doors and then presented it as the way "voters" had selected. It has always worked this way and it makes me angry that due to multiple strikes against an actor, primarily youth, it was enough for an orchestrated manipulation of the nomination process to take place to balance things out in the way that would protect the brand, while awarding another "overdue" veteran for a lifetime of achievements. It would make the Academy look bad having Timmy nominated again, only to lose to another old man, in a tiny role, who is truly being awarded for a career body of work. So, they simply eliminated him from even being nominated. Easy peasy.
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Post by Simone on Jan 23, 2019 7:47:02 GMT -8
Selma's tweet got 2k Likes. She speaks the truth. Everyone knows.
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Post by Simone on Jan 23, 2019 9:46:52 GMT -8
I'm putting this here to support my theory of 'Deliberate Oscar Nomination Snubbing'. I'm a fan of Emily Blunt, I LOVE her. And she was brilliant in both Mary Poppins Returns and A Quite Place. When a surprise actress took her spot in being nominated for Best Actress, and said actress was not nominated in ANY of the four precursors, yet again, this appears so calculating and deliberate in suppressing a strong nominee, in order for a preferred nominee to win. I this case, Glenn Close will benefit from Emily being excluded. Gaga got the Best Song, hands down, so that's her Oscar.
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Post by Simone on Jan 24, 2019 13:26:50 GMT -8
I'm so happy that Rolling Stone film critic, Peter Travers slammed the Academy for snubbing Timmy for Best Supporting actor. They did this on purpose out of spite, and Peter called them out for it. Thank you Peter! Click on the video to listen to him go off on AMPAS.
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