Post by chalametthegreat on May 17, 2019 15:16:54 GMT -8
I dont think there are any easy answers when it comes to whether to support or not support a film due to the sins or alleged sins of prominent filmmakers and stars. It appears that Harvey Weinsten committed some atrocious acts against women, but does that mean any movie with his name attached over the last few decades should be blacklisted and not made available to the public. "Braveheart" is one of my favorite movies despite Mel Gibson having done some awful deeds in his personal life.
With respect to "A Rainy Day in New York" then, I think it should have just been released per contractual agreements in order to allow audiences decide based on their consciences whether to see it or not. It seems silly and inconsistent to me that this one Woody Allen film would be banned in America but not all of Woody's other films over the years. Should we now revoke Cate Blanchetts well deserved Oscar for "Blue Jasmine" for example? And between blacklisting and freedom, I come down on the side of freedom even for scumbags or alleged scumbags in Hollywood.
I watched the trailer for "A Rainy Day in New York" and personally it is a movie I would see. Timothee appears awesome as always as well as Selena and Elle. I love stories set in New York City even though I like my life in the suburbs. If I ever get the opportunity to watch the whole film, I will.
And finally I like that Timothee tried to do the right thing if there is a right thing in this situation. His salary went to good causes and he did not bash the movie or its stars or Woody. Some people may argue he should have taken a different course of action, but I think the poor guy was in a no win situation media and public relations wise. Let's hope "Dune" is less controversial for his career but in this age anything is controversial!
The trailer looks good,not great, a WA vibe we've seen before. The cinematography is nicely done. I image Timothee regrets working on the film on a number of levels, but the "canceled" tweets a bit out of control. So many high profile actors, including Emma Stone, Steve Carrell, Jessie Eisenberg, have worked with WA and the allegations were out there. I think the renewed spotlight on the situation, #MeToo and Timmy's rising profile created the perfect/terrible PR storm. I see enough swirling around WA to find him a creepy and yet he has not been arrested/charged, so I see why Timothee and other actors would still sign up to work with him. Timothee and his team may have seen this as a chance to work with an iconic director on a NY centered film. Hopefully,the focus moves on to his upcoming work.
Does anyone really think this is an Awards caliber of film? I mean the trailer looks quirky and fun but not on the level of being an awards contender (plus there is the added backlash against Woody Allen). This looks like a different role for Timmy, at least from what I have seen him in, in the past, so that is interesting. I'll see it when it comes out on Amazon Prime. I don't like Woody Allen but Amazon has no legal reason to not release the movie. It will end up being released in the US at some point and it should be. Than each person can make their mind up whether to see it or not.
I would only bring a film into discussion after seeing the whole film. I can only tell if I'll enjoy a film or not based on its trailer. A handful of people have won Oscars and other awards from Allen films, so he has an eye for bringing out the best in his talent. We'll see... eventually.
That was a different time though. There is such an Allen backlash right now, even if this was a great movie, I think the voters would stay away from it. And I doubt Timothee wants anything to do with this movie. He has already distanced himself from it. I don't see any awards chances at all but if it is just a bit of fun and entertaining, that is good enough for me. We will see!
Just for clarification, I'm personally not entertaining any awards discussion on this film. Not all films need to be in an awards discussion. But with that said, this film will be lucky to screen at any theaters at all. So, I'm just hoping to see the film; anything beyond that is wild speculation.
But I do want to re-iterate that Timmy took his professional responsibilities for this film seriously and when shit hit the fan that was completely unrelated to him, he was appropriately advised on how to handle it. He even donated his entire salary to three worthy causes to keep the lynch mob off his own ass. He gave up what most Americans would consider a down payment on a home (in the mid-west). So Timmy made his sacrifice and he's moving on. I do wonder if he'll ever watch this film in private just to see the outcome.
Agreed. Timmy did what he HAD to do. There were no other options for him. He could be proud of the movie but he has just had to move on from it. I just don't want him out there in the fall promoting LW and The King and be asked about this movie and Allen...again. it is a no-win situation. So I hope it just gets released and goes away.
Another step towards this film being released in the US. This was inevitable. Amazon just can't hold this film hostage. They may soon be settling with Woody to put all this behind them. Now Woody has to find a new distributor, which means it'll be in the theaters this summer/fall, or maybe VOD.
The fandom's beloved favorite director gave a piece of his mind regarding the Woody situation. I totally understand where Luca is coming from, and I'm glad he's not afraid to say what he thinks.
The movie starts out with the familiar title font from Woody Allen movies. “I did it already in the past with the short film ‘Working Stories,’ said Guadagnino. “I was asking Ariel Schulman, a director who is also a great visual artist, to draw by hand Woody Allen titles.”
Guadagnino disapproves “of all the perverted and primordial enjoyment of a kind of ‘Scarlet Letter’ trial of a man,” he said. “I still am a believer in state of rights; Mr. Allen went through many investigations 20 years ago and was cleared. The Woody Allen legacy — those movies are there, and they are fantastic. Anyone who denies that “Another Woman” is masterpiece is stupid!”
Bravo Guadagnino! Unlike most of the Club members, I am a BIG Woody Allen fan: his screenplays are clever, sometimes brilliant, and he gives actors tremendous freedom. His legacy is assured. I'm sure that once Rain Day is released in Europe, there will be downloads available in the US. Can't wait to be "entertained"!
The fandom clique gang have their claws out in response to my tweet this week in my continued support of wanting to see A Rainy Day in New York. The responses are lame, but they will increase in cattiness in due time, especially as the movie is made available for viewing.
This is going to be fun. I just KNOW that all those who are publicly against this film, will see it on the down low, and still pretend they didn't, and say they don't give a damn about the film. The hypocrisy is such bullshit. You can dislike a man, but enjoy the art created by a group of talented people overseen by him.