But which movie would he be in contention for this Oscar season? Little Women or The King? Or both?
And I have an awards inquiry for fellow Chalamaniacs who have seen both films. Which of the two is his best performance? Or is it really apples and oranges?
I cannot compare yet as I have not seen Little Women.
I've only seen the test screening of Little Women, so I cannot fairly state his contention for that, yet. What I have seen, he's stronger in The King as Lead, but the Best Actor race this year is abnormally brutally tight. I feel that it could go either way, Lead for King, or Supporting for LW... just to have Timmy in the mix as both performances were very impressive.
Once I see LW again in December, I'll make a solid decision then. But for now, he should legitimately be in the Best Actor conversation, biases aside.
I'm happy for Timmy to be in awards consideration, as always, but this year I cross my fingers for Joaquin Phoenix, he is one of my favs, too, and his performance in Joker is more than a lasted-one-year-achievement. This is an exciting year!
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I've seen both LW and The King and you really can't compare the 2 roles and his performances because they're complete opposites. I mean, he was great in The King but he was lead. He's not the lead in LW. I actually liked him better character wise in LW because that's more my type of movie over The King. But I think he was great performance wise in both. Sorry if that didn't really answer your question. lol
Post by chalametthegreat on Nov 13, 2019 16:27:54 GMT -8
Thanks for responding. I look forward to commenting on "Little Women" when I watch it. I enjoy that type of movie too so I cannot wait to see it.
But man if I were to submit Timothees Best Actor performance consideration video for The King, all you need is that speech to his men on the field of battle. That moment just sticks with me after watching the film. And thanks to YouTube I have watched it again 20 times since.
I agree that there is fierce competition among men this year for both Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor. I think Timothees best shot for a nomination may be the Golden Globes rather than Oscars. I wish him the best of luck of course!
The Academy told Team Timmy what they thought of him last year with the Beautiful Boy snub.
'You're very good, but too goddamn young, too talented, too "new", and too good looking, so fuck off until you're around 30.'
I personally was not interested in seeing Timmy attend shows this season just to be a seat warmer, or for the publicity or ratings just to have him there. If he couldn't win anything last year with THAT performance for BB, he's not getting in this year, especially due to the outrageous competition this year. He'll have more chances in the future, but Netflix put in a decent effort to promote and support The King, but they are more focused on the other three films. Perhaps there might be a surprise nomination, but I think the best bet for any awards will be with the Australia Academy.
My speculation is that he'll attend a few shows for support to Little Women, and if he's interested, and time permits, maybe he can be an awards presenter at the Oscars.
Maybe. He has DUNE to promote all year in 2020, so what better way than to keep your face and future projects on the public conscious than making an appearance on stage at the Oscars?
Yes, I have thought this for months now. And it is not being negative, just being realistic about his chances this year. He was great in both movies but the competition is so tough this year in movies that are better reviewed (specifically in regards to The King, plus it is a Netflix film). LW will be critically acclaimed but it is such a female driven movie, if any nominations, it would be Greta, Saoirse and maybe Florence (plus maybe BP, adapted screenplay, costumes and some others). It reminds me of Lady Bird and The Favourite which both did well awards season but they were highly female driven movies and the actors didn't get any recognition. I think Timothee will get some recognition for LW, just not award noms. Plus he has received a lot of award noms the past two years. It is hard to get nominated every year, even for veteran actors, and Timothee is still so young. Last year, he was completely snubbed by the Oscars, that was a disgrace. If he gets no noms this year, I don't see it as a snub. There are so many great performances this year, some just aren't going to make the cut.
Hoping he does present at one or two of the award shows, that would be cool.
Edit: I do think The King has a shot at winning some of the Australian Awards it was nominated for. So hoping for that to happen! Heck, maybe there be a surprise nomination somewhere - you never know.
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Too true Tracy, we both prepared ourselves for this moment, to confirm it. Writing is on the wall. I have subscriptions to Variety and Hollywood Reporter and Netflix is heavily focused on three films, and one hasn't even starting screenings yet (The Two Popes). I thought the British would be up in The King... but alas, with an Aussie crew and a New York theater boy as Hal, BAFTA won't pay it any attention - it has to be British folk in anything British history royalty.
Timmy will be advised to keep putting out excellent work and he'll hit the jackpot one day.
Yes, Netflix has had a great year and they are definitely focused on The Irishmen, Marriage Story and Two Popes. And to be fair, they are all critically raved (personally I loved Marriage Story and Two Popes). I heard Two Popes is doing very well in the industry too (someone went to a screening of it recently with a lot of Oscar voters and the Oscar voters LOVED it). Plus these movies have such veteran, well loved actors. The King is doing very well with audience goers but is split critically, unfortunately. I'd love for Netflix to release some #'s on The King but I know they rarely do. Seems to be doing well though.
Timmy's time will come. He just has to keep picking great projects and probably age a little (which is a bunch of crap but that is the way it seems to be).
I noticed this is in this week's print edition of The Hollywood Reporter. Glad they still have Timmy on their radar, even if Netflix is now just focusing on Best Picture and Original Score for The King. Not even one half-page, or 1/3rd-page FYC ad for Best Actor. A damn shame!
I have no idea if Timmy plans to attend the Australian Oscars show. With King being nominated for so many awards and is on pace to win at least half of those, I hope Timmy wins Best Actor, and for that, he should be there if possible. This would be only the second awards body to give Timmy an award and for him to go up on the stage and give an acceptance speech. The Aussies should love to do this for him if he's voted as the best in that category.
Here are the Best Actor nominees:
Timothée Chalamet - The King Baykali Ganambarr - The Nightingale Damon Herriman - Judy & Punch Dev Patel - Hotel Mumbai Hugo Weaving - Hearts and Bones
The Golden Globes nominations are this coming Monday, 9 December. As per this article, there's a great chance that Little Women can get multiple nominations, including Greta breaking the all white straight male director brigade. However, if Timmy doesn't make the cut here in Supporting, the nomination game is completely over for him for the remainder of the season. He may still show up in group support for LW, but if he's not nominated in this female driven story, I personally don't see the point in him attending the awards shows, especially not for a third year in a row where he was a seat warmer.
2. I’m told “Little Women” is a hit with the HFPA. It’s possible Greta Gerwig will nab a directing nom, which would be refreshing, considering the front-runners are primarily straight white men. Lulu Wang (“The Farewell”), Lorene Scafaria (“Hustlers”) and Marielle Heller (“A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood”) are three other women directors who aren’t completely out of the conversation. Whether or not Gerwig snags that nom, “Little Women” is a contender for multiple nods, including lead actress for Saoirse Ronan and supporting for Florence Pugh. Gerwig could also land on the screenplay ballot.
Timmy's individual acting award nominations have all but died today when the Golden Globes were announced and he didn't receive anything for The King or Little Women (which was pretty much ignored by HFPA besides acting for Saoirse and Original score). He could still be clumped together with the girls at the SAGs for ensemble award, but I think Knives Out or Once Upon/Hollywood, will win that.
So, no Timmy on the red carpet for the awards this year. I'm a little relieved because I couldn't bear to witness him being nominated only to just sit there looking gorgeous and clapping for the same winner.
Timmy can focus on getting some R&R before he preps for his star turn on the West End in April, and then he'll be in full promotion mode for The French Dispatch, and DUNE.