I'm happy about the 11 nominations for Joker, really thrilled. It's too bad that Greta didn't make the cut, but it was foretold with the DGA nominations, all noms thus far have excluded women, and she was the strongest contender to possibly land a nomination of women filmmakers this year. Little Women received 6 and we should applaud that. Timmy was ignored once again, but his time will come, again, as he's just 24 (I hate stating his age, but, it's a major factor).
The Jennifer Lopez snub was a shock and in her place was Kathy Bates. Good Jesus. And Cynthia Erivo got nominated for Harriet, which she was snubbed for at BAFTA, but at the end of the day, this nomination was good for her.
My favorite film, 1917 received 10 nominations.
A lot of people are upset this morning. I'm bewildered by some snubs and nominations, but not having a fit like I did last year with Timmy's snub. I look forward to attending the Oscars screening party with Tracy as I will be supporting some otherwise excellent films and performances.
Some are hoping that Timothée makes an appearance at the Oscars. Unless he's invited to present, and if he's available and interested, he may attend. But I personally hope he's not a part of this charade because they don't deserve him. He'll be there in the near future for Dune and Going Electric.
I'm happy for Joker's noms, it's my favourite movie in 2019, though I haven't seen 1917 yet. Actually it's not worth crying so much about noms, because it was a great year with full of excellent movies. I had and have a lot movies to watch.
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Post by chalametthegreat on Jan 13, 2020 17:20:46 GMT -8
I am quite bummed about Greta Gerwig not being nominated for Best Director. This awards season just had so many good performances and films that I don't think anyone would have been completely happy with the nominations.
That being said and with only two female director nominations over 90 years, the Oscars could have easily made history ... sigh!
I am sharing this directors roundtable video in honor of the Oscars this year. What a fascinating conversation among extraordinary men AND women! Go Greta!!! youtu.be/4iLtjMwkOlg
My first scripted film, Honey Boy, was nominated for four Independent Spirit Awards, including Best Director, and for First-Time Feature for the 2020 DGA Awards.
For an indie filmmaker who works on a film for one to three years — and especially for women — playing the awards game often means a gamble on your whole livelihood. These are five to six months of unpaid labor. That said, winning an award can trigger a bonus that is usually a part of the filmmaker’s initial contract and is often bigger than everything they earned making that film.
How much money your film can “raise” for an awards campaign, and how many hands you are willing to shake while wearing clothes you can’t afford, are often connected to the results at awards shows. We all feel morally compromised, but we have to campaign. What other choices do we have? If we don’t have awards, people may not discover lesser-known independent films.
We are told again and again that it’s essential to our success in the long term that we play along… But it didn’t used to be like this.
It all started with Harvey Weinstein, who took 1998’s Shakespeare in Love to voters with the same importance of a political campaign. “We’re living Harvey’s legacy,” one woman whispered in my ear at a lavish awards party.
Buying voters with private dinners, private jets, and private concerts is now a legitimate part of the awards campaign’s currency.
At an awards meeting recently, a fellow female filmmaker friend was told that, out of your typical five directing award nominations, there may be only one spot for a woman or person of color. And that nomination will most likely go to the film that performed best at the box office “because then they can’t dismiss it.”
Who are THEY? And how can we stop waiting for THEM to see us? To include us?
Why is suggesting separating the directing category to male and female frowned-upon, while Best Actor and Best Actress is agreeable? Are we so naive to assume we would celebrate actresses as much as we do today if acting categories weren’t separate?
The status quo will always protect itself by getting women and underrepresented filmmakers play a game they can’t win. By making us believe that anything other than breaking into the white boys’ club is failure. It is up to us to feel differently and build a new world that celebrates us.
Here is the scorecard of the films that received Oscar nominations, and the studios that got Oscar nominations.
Nominations by film (two or more):
“Joker” — 11 “The Irishman”– 10 “1917” — 10 “Once Upon a Time…in Hollywood” — 10 “Jojo Rabbit” — 6 “Little Women” — 6 “Marriage Story” — 6 “Parasite” — 6 “Ford v Ferrari” — 4 “Bombshell” — 3 “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker” — 3 “The Two Popes” — 3 “Harriet” — 2 “Honeyland” — 2 “Judy” — 2 “Pain and Glory” — 2 “Toy Story 4” — 2
Now pay attention to the studios below. Do you see Amazon? I thought they would get a couple for The Aeronauts, but I think they got one for Les Miserables. But deep down inside, I kinda smirk because this is Karma for how they mishandled the Woody Allen/A Rainy Day in New York and their other films contract with him. Oh well, a below the radar Oscar nomination for that studio is a case of what goes around, comes around.
Nominations by studio (two or more):
Netflix — 24 Sony Pictures — 20 Walt Disney — 17 Warner Bros. — 12 Universal Pictures — 11 Neon — 8 Fox Searchlight — 6 Lionsgate — 4 Focus Features — 2 LD Entertainment and Roadside Attractions — 2
I had predicted 6 noms for LW but was HOPING for 7! Not surprising Greta wasn't nominated. There are just so many reasons why women directors face such a tough time getting best director noms (let alone even winning). And so many people are still in denial there is any issue (same with the lack of POC noms), it is frustrating. But I am super happy for LW, Greta, Saoirse, Florence and the rest of the team.
It would be nice to see Timmy there, if he is invited, of course, and cares to go and is not busy with something else. It would certainly be up to him if he wants to or not but even though he had no individual noms, it would be great to support LW and the others. He made a big contribution to the movie and was a part of it getting a BP nom.
I received an email last night about a screening of LW with a Q&A with Greta, tonight. When I replied, it was on wait list. So didn't bother. It would have been a long commute from work to the theatre, during rush hour. And without a ticket, forget it. Will just keep checking on the Sony site if there are anymore coming up.
People keep saying that they think it would be great for Timmy to support LW. He's been doing that since day one. I know as stans, people want to see him at any opportunity that they can. To see what he's wearing, what his hair is like, who he'll take with him, etc. But the Oscars snubbed Timmy horribly in 2019, and unfortunately, he wasn't part of the awards conversation this year. So for that alone, there is no reason for him to be dragged to the Oscars, just to sit in an audience to watch a spectacle of contrived, manipulated bullshit unfold and not be a recipient of any honors. Seating and tickets are tight and only allocated to those nominated and their guests, presenters and performers and industry folk. If Timmy goes as a presenter, that's one thing, but, I just don't think his schedule will permit him to go. He doesn't owe us anything else in supporting or promoting the film. He's done, it was never going to be the Timmy Show, the ball is in the court of the girls of Little Women. Like how people were accusing Steve Carrell of not supporting Beautiful Boy beyond the festivals and premieres, he did what he was contractually obligated to do. And he was a bigger star than Timmy and in comparison, had a larger role in BB than Timmy did in LW. Timmy has way too much on his plate to prep for the Dylan film, and his 6-week play in London. Him deciding to take his mom or Lily to the Oscars is most likely not even on his mind. But if he's announced to be a presenter, that would be a pleasant surprise, but I'm not going to hold my breath. A 24-year-old guy with two important projects on the horizon, and after busting his ass promoting at the same time, The King and Little Women, and not getting so much as a token Golden Globe nomination... he's done. And God bless him.
I have to say that while he wasn't nominated for LW the movie itself was nominated for Best Picture and he's part of the cast. So I think he should attend the Oscars to represent the movie. The whole cast should be there. When we see movies win Best Picture usually the whole cast comes up on stage as a representation of the movie itself. He doesn't owe it to us to be there but he owes it to LW and everyone associated with making this beautiful movie. And as far as his schedule, he won't be working on anything (that we know of) at the beginning of Feb when the Oscars are taking place. He probably won't have to be in London for play rehearsals until March. So his schedule would probably permit him to be there.
Also, someone on FB said that they saw him featured in ads for the SAG Awards which take place on Sun. Has anyone else seen these ads or heard anything about him attending?
No, I haven't seen any ads on FB. Probably click-bait, as these award bodies use Timothee all the time for promotion, even when they know he won't be there. And there is no reason for any from LW to go to SAG - they were totally snubbed.
In terms of the Oscars, entirely different situation as it was nominated for 6 awards, including BP. But Timothee can go or not, his choice. And no, he doesn't owe us, I personally have never said that. He is part of the cast of a BP nom, so if the Oscars asked him to attend, I think it would be cool if he was there. I mean if LW won BP (highly unlikely), I would love for him to be on stage with Greta, Saoirse, Florence, and anyone else from the film that is there. He would be a part of that BP win and celebration. But he is not obligated to attend.
I'm curious for the 9 BP nominees, only those actors/actresses who have individual noms or are presenters (and assuming 1 guest) are invited? So for 1917, for example, George and Dean won't be invited (they were at the GG's unless they came as someone's guest)?
I agree, he doesn't have to go to the Oscars if he doesn't want to. It's his choice of course. But it would be a nice thing for him to do to support LW for the best picture nomination and also Saoirse and Florence for their nominations as well.
Also, what I meant was that a person on FB said they saw an ad on the TV for the SAG awards featuring him. It wasn't on a web site. I was just wondering if anyone else had seen this ad because I honestly can't picture him going out to LA just to attend.
This is a VERY interesting read. I'm thinking a lot of academy members think like this guy, who I'm sure is a standard straight white guy.
As for the awards themselves: There are nine movies battling it out for Best Picture. Will it be 1917, Parasite, Once Upon a Time…In Hollywood, Joker, The Irishman?
Absolutely hands-down for me it’s going to be 1917. I’ve seen it a couple times now and apart from the fact that it’s such a compelling story, it’s mind-boggling how they managed to do it the way they did it.
Moving from Santa to people of color, there is only one black actor nominated: Cynthia Erivo for Harriet.
When the #OscarsSoWhite backlash happened, we were all thrown under the bus by our own Academy for seemingly being biased. So they added a lot more members, making sure it was diverse. But what also came out of that was an extra fringe benefit of youth. Suddenly an entire group of voters was plugged into social media in a way the older voters were not. So now comes this year, where the grumblings are happening again, but this time it’s harder to throw the Academy members under the bus because we are more diverse now. I think it points to what the other issue was that got buried under the controversy, and that is the need to develop more projects that are richer in roles for actors of color and even stronger directing opportunities for women.
And he’s never won for acting before—though they don’t seem to care about that kind of thing anymore. Look at Glenn Close. So will Laura Dern win Best Supporting Actress for her divorce lawyer in Marriage Story?
I believe so. I’ve been avoiding watching Little Women [which Dern is also in] because I don’t like that story. I saw a clip and it was exactly what I thought that film was gonna be—syrupy—but apparently it’s not that bad. I’ll catch up with it. In Marriage Story, holy crap, Laura plays a tough woman who’s unbelievably manipulative and embodies why you should be terrified of lawyers. She’s gonna win because she embraced that role
Moving on to Best Director. Will Bong Joon-ho (Parasite) get this, like a foreign director did last year (Alfonso Cuaron for Roma)?
I’m going to vote for Mendes. To conceive of 1917 and figure out how to do it and get actors that managed to pull this off was remarkable. I saw it on the big screen and the little screen, and it holds up on the latter. Mendes will win. He went above and beyond making a film that was astoundingly different, without the ability to juxtapose one scene with another for effect. My order would be Mendes, Tarantino, Phillips, Joon-ho, Scorsese.